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Homesteading Classes and Hands-On Homestead Courses

By: Everett S

I’ve talked to a lot of homesteaders over the years, and have heard a lot of different opinions on what it means to homestead. In that time there is one thing I have NEVER heard: Homesteading is easy. But don’t be discouraged. With a bit of help from people who know how to live off the land, you can avoid many of the pitfalls and greatly improve your chances of success.

Homestead Heritage ClassesThe first thing you should probably know is that most homesteaders have a second income. Maybe they work “in town” or telecommute, or perhaps they have their own business, such as selling honey or hand-made soaps. Even hardcore legends like the Nearings had supplemental income selling syrup and books.

One way some homesteaders help pay the bills is to give classes on homesteading. Below is a list of some homestead families who provide individual homesteading courses, along with a bit of information about each to help you make a decision.

Six Schools With Homesteading Classes

Homesteading Heritage Center for Essential Education (
This “school of homesteading” offers a complete curriculum for sustainable living skills from their model four-acre homestead located within their larger 510 acre working farm. Located in Elm Mott, Texas, they offer single day classes covering specific topics like owning a family goat, the family cow (course pictured above) and beekeeping, as well as multi-day classes like their three-day homesteading course that covers everything from gardening and dairy animals to fencing and water supply. Single-day classes are about $75-$85 and multi-day homesteading courses are $155 – $250. Accommodation is not provided. Homestead Heritage is part of the Educational Ministry of Heritage Ministries, which is a Christian community dedicated to preserving and nurturing those principles and values and applying them with new understanding to the present and future, to create a viable continuity from one generation to the next. Although we found no evidence of “preachiness” from literature and descriptions of their homestead courses, this might be something for those of other faiths to think about before making their selection of a homesteading school.

Midwest Native Skills Institute (Ohio)
This school focuses on homesteading skills you might need if the power goes out for good, including candle making, as well as cheese making and canning. Based in Cleveland, this on-site course is 4 days of homesteading course immersion over a long weekend.

Muller’s Lane Farm (Illinois)
Another Christian-based family farm offering classes on homesteading, the Muller’s teach visitors everything from driving a draft horse to soap making and canning. They chose to include these classes at the requests of visitors participating in their farm tours. We couldn’t find much in the way of prices on their website so you’ll just have to contact them and ask. Muller’s Lane Farm is located in Rock Falls, IL.

The Institute of Urban Homesteading (California)
Taking a different twist on homesteading classes, this school in Oakland, CA understands that not everyone who is interested in living a simpler, healthier life can live out in the country. Urban Homesteading is a growing phenomenon similar to the movement in which people living in city neighborhoods and suburbs are turning their small sub-acre plots into thriving vegetable gardens and small urban homesteads capable of providing enough food to feed their entire family. A classic example of success in urban homesteading is the Dervaes family’s Path to Freedom project. You can learn how to do what they’re doing by taking an urban homesteading class in Oakland.

Pioneer School of Homesteading (Michigan)
The Quaker Hill Farm is another Christian-based (Quakers) farm that offers homesteading classes to the public. Located in Harrisville, MI, the farm offers courses for about $75 each on topics like beekeeping, breadmaking, growing and using medicinal herbs, raising poultry, basic homesteading skills and many others. And who better to learn how to homestead from than the Quakers?

Denver Urban Homesteading Group (Colorado)
There are lots of classes available in Denver for everything from raising chickens and goats to building your own tiny house. Check out the Denver Urban Homesteading site if you’re in the area.

Aside from these on-site courses, there are plenty of web-based opportunities to learn about homesteading online, including the LASL How To section,  and thousands of homesteading groups on with more local learning classes taught by group members.

If you have a farm or homestead and offer courses, please tell our readers about it by commenting below!

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  3. Off Grid Ebert says:

    Living off the land isn’t easy even for those who grow up on a farm. Take someone who lived their entire life in a city and that compounds the issue manyfold. These homesteading classes are a great way for former and current city-dwellers to bridge some of the gap between their knowledge and that of someone who grew up on a farm – thus improving their chances of making a go at living off the land.

  4. I strongly support those living off the grid and would like to do so myself.
    Right now I’m living in a motorhome.
    Living where I can.
    I no longer care to support greedy landlords,bill collectors or this high price of living this society is subjecting the people to.
    I’m looking for a place to live Freely off the land.
    Have my own energy and water source.
    To have a place to grow my own crops and live stock.
    To hunt and fish.
    I say freely off the land because no man should have to pay for something that is our god given right and the right of every living creature on this ea.
    I believe we lost our freedom when we were denied that right.
    Now we find our selves unable to afford the right to own your own land without going deep in debt to a bunch of loan sharks and exstortionists.
    Who’s laws give them the legal right to rob you of what you worked hard for.

  5. michael says:

    i know this of the subject sorta, where i live (state,town) if you try to live off the grit or try to live without the grit. you would get charged no less than $700 and get jail time. they say that you are indagering others although there might not be people living with in 200 ft.

    you can look where i live on the map ( big stone gap, Virginia).

  6. michael says:

    sorry forgot to put that we can not have poultry and if you try to grow vegitables they try to charge different prices for each.

  7. Greg says:

    You have to be rich to own your own house or land. I agree with the early writer that it should be our god given right to own land. The homestead act that was taken away in 1986. So why can’t we get the act re-instated so maybe a tax paying citizen might have a house with some land. It’s not right.

  8. Yes, everyone should own their own land. In sweden we never have had the law that says you have the right to own your land.

    Here I haven´t seen any courses to learn homestading. We don´t even have a word for that!!

  9. Annette says:

    In your opinion where is the best place to homestead or “live off the land in the US?

  10. Annette – Obviously from my choice of locations to buy farmland in, I’d have to say somewhere in Appalachia. The Ozarks are good too (from what I hear) if you don’t mind the humidity.

  11. Laura says:

    Hi everyone this is my first attempt to follow a dream my husband I have to start a new life living off the grid. We have no real knowledge how to begin finding somewhere to homestead. We are considering Colorado, Montana, New Mexico and hope someone out there can help us gain the knowledge we need to seek out a homesteading land opportunity in these areas. Our plan is to pay it forward and help others to spiritually grow and sustain themselves off the grid as we plan to do. Thank you and your responses would be most appreciated.

  12. Rob says:

    I also agree to the god giving right to have our own piece of land. We are owned by this system from birth. The lies and dishonesty of our government has been there from the start. All I want is peace in my life, a roof over my head, food,health and my son. Its 2:15 in the morning and I’m researching on how to survive in the wilderness so I don’t wind up dead within a few months of my future journey. I wish I could find a christian based organization that welcomed new comers in, and taught them to survive and had a payback system once you were established. I love life just not the life man created. GREED!!!

  13. To those who think “God gave us the right to own land” I’d like to ask: How many children do you have? There is only enough room for so many people on this “God-given” earth. Imagine if all of the condo and apartment-dwelling people all over the world – stacked hundreds on top of each other in places like India and China and major US cities – were to each own five or ten acres. There just wouldn’t be enough.

    So stop breeding or stop bitching. One or the other but you can’t have your cake and eat it too.

  14. gord f says:

    I agree with your staement (Off Grid Ebert) but you have to keep in mind that as badly as some people want to live off the land there is just as many if not more, people who simply want to live the easily paid for life in modern society. There is also the other poeple who simply could not function in the simplicity that is living “off the land”. I think that all in all given the choice there is enough land in this world that if a man wanted to take care of himself and live on the land he should not have to fatten the pocket of someone who is selling you what mother earth has already provided to everyone free of charge.

  15. todd says:

    I think the govt should help us out in going back to the land,they help all kinds of groups do strange things, why not let us live the way we want to an leave us alone ? Also, for hose who are concidering property sites remember this….know what you need, are you going to grow and produce ? Then you need land that has a good growing season, dont just settle cause its cheap ! Study area, the surroundings and whats allready growing there….altitude and climate are key. T

  16. Jeff G. says:

    I am going to be leaving this spring with the full intention of disappearing from all society and surviving off the land and the resources is has.Our earliest ancestors did it and the Indians did it.I have extensive training and knowledge of edible plants and catching food.Why should we have to live under the “laws” that the government set so they can get richer and we all starve or lose everything?Nature is free and the invaluable resources it provides is more than sufficient to support life.The trick is to stay as far from civilization as possible and be ready to defend your right to exist if necessary!!

  17. dave1823 says:

    Most people do not have the guts it takes to live “off grid”. my wife and I take a step closer each year. You cannot just snap your fingers and it happens. Think about these points, this is a small list that my wife and I feel we have to be able to meet to live off grid.
    1.can you repair it if it breaks? take a welding and mechanics course.
    2.can you grow it? learn from farmers, co-ops, agri. busness.
    3.TAKE A EMT CLASS!!!!!
    4.learn to cook from/with basics now.
    5. how will we eat if there is a flood,drought,or just a bad year.
    This is just 5 of our list, start with small steps. practice living with out the little things.

  18. MountainMan says:

    I agree with both sides, we should all be able to live free from the ties of society if we chosse to do so by self sustaining on this planet and that population is our largest problem when trying to do this. I do believe that the earth has its own form of population control that will govern itself if left to do so. Unfortunatley the inteligence (or lack of intelligence) of the human species has allowed it to evolve away from the earths control and create a false sense of reality to the nearly 7 billion people that live here. The problem is we got to good at farming and cultivating food. I am in a strange situation in my own life where I dream of being free of this societal mess we have made and yet I work for the government and depend on the pay check for survival, I am a hypocrit! Unfortunately its not by choice, Its just tough to fight against 7 billion people!

  19. Rani Foley says:

    For those of you who are not sure if it can be done. Yes you can live off the land, grow your own crops and have solar energy. My dad does it in the Bahamas. He has solar power and gas powered appliances mostly solar except the stove. He does not have AC but knows someone who has enough panels to have AC. He ca tches his own rain water through the gutters on his house and filters them into a covered plastic tank. He has composting toilets that turn waste to a dust like substance and can fertilize the plants. He has chickens and a wide variety of fruits and vegatables. His wife spends about 20 hr a week in her garden but they have more than enough food to feed them and more. He found a radio tower and receives high speed internet throught the tower. Uses a marine radio to contact the locals by water. Its a great life and yes it can be done.

  20. Rani Foley says:

    continuation of It can be done. My dad started off on a house boat and lived on that rent free and realized he didnt want to live like everyone else. If you live by the water you can fish for food.
    I would like to try this lifestyle sometime. I just hope I dont starve to death because I am not good with plants.
    Other ways of living off the grid — sailboats, working for one of the parks and volunteering for a few hrs a week some will let you live there for free. Thats how I plan to retire.

  21. wvhomesteader says:

    I am located in West Virginia, and have been homesteading a very short while now. I want to be totally off-grid, but I guess I am cheating for right now. I have electric, and I use it for my saws & things while getting everything prepared. That is the fences, barns/sheds etc. I find it very hard to get everything done when your doing it by yourself. I would love to have some others here with me, but so far I have no one interested in this type of life. I own my property here, but its rough farmsteading here. I live on the side of a mountain, that is covered in trees. I have worked hard and got a small part of the trees cleared, to make a field for my goat, and of course the chickens, turkeys, ducks, geese & guineas enjoy it also. I don’t have a fence up yet to really hold anything in, my animals free range all the time. The chickens, turkeys & guineas go into the chicken house to roost at night, and I shut them up to be safe & sound. I knew it would not be an easy life, but when you start going back in time to live, people thinkyou have lost your mind. My own family even quit coming around when I started this farming thing. But even tho I do miss the company of my family, I still have to move on & not let them or anyone else drag me down. I would actually like to meet a couple guys that would like to be part of this homestead, so that I can have others input, plus someone of like mind tobe around for good company. I want to wish all of you great success in your dreams of homesteading.

  22. Bob Ferguson says:

    I am somewhat surprised by what I have read at this site but not in total disagreement! Everyone cannot live “off-grid” and neither can everyone life On-grid either. There is room for both and should be. I have skills gained in the U.S.Military to live off the land, for and extended time, however not to this degree, but rather for one person only! What your talking about is farming and long term living for larger amounts of people for ever…This is a whole different kind of living and it is at this the pioneers did when they first came to this country as the came from England and established the Colonies in the “New Country”! At some point those people formed a set of laws for the good of the many! This is the foundation of our style of Government I would say get involved or leave! I am ultra conservative and you can find nobody that is more upset about how this country is ran, but we have to work from with-in to change not waste our energy and leave! So, I say get busy and get involved or get busy and leave and do it now so we don’t have to experience the dead weight of people that serve no useful purpose! What I would prefer is you stay and get to work for this country! What will it be?

  23. Rik Absher says:

    to wvhomesteader, please explain your plans and situation. i would also like to live off grid. i am currently in cali. i spent alot of time in the minnesota. i love to cut wood and clearing woods is enjoyment for me. i am a 37 yr old male, divorced and ready to get as far from the daily life of modernism. please write me back at i hope to communicate with you more on this.

  24. Donald murray says:

    I come from Ireland orginally, and in the time of the potato famine, people used to live off plots of land not much bigger than some people’s gardens. This is why they grew potatos, as this vegetable supplies so much nurishment per small area, but this became their undoing as the potato blight left them with nothing to eat. Note that there was plenty of food in the country if you had the money. The English were exporting a lot of grain from Ireland at the time, just they didn’t give a shit about those who were dying of starvation….
    A decent vegetable garden is where to start. If you live in the city in a house with a big yard (half an acre or so), dig up your lawn and turn it into a vegetable garden and see how you do. You will learn an awful lot about how to get certain vegetables to grow and about crop rotation. Learn how to store these veggies without the need for refridgeration. Use dehydration and cold storage (in a cellar for example) for tubors like potatos and onions. Learn how to pickle foods also.
    Make your meals from mostly vegetables with a little meat (very little) as this is how people lived back then. A few chickens might be kept in a coop in your yard….maybe start there with meat. Convert your house to solar and whatnot to see how far you can get off the grid. You can do all this without homesteading.

    My concern is for when society and government breaks down, which seems inevitable these days (maybe 100 years from now), but all it takes is a really bad pandemic like the black death, and thats the end of society as you knew it.
    Also try backing up the web to a disk farm. Believe me, if you can archive large portions of the web, it could be the difference between life and death.

    Also grow a good herb garden both for natural medicinals as well as food flavoring.

    Next time you are at the beach, try collecting your own salt.
    There is a lot you can do by continuing in your day job and learning “on the job” as it were. Eventually you’ll be ready.

  25. Patty Kay says:

    Very well said mr murray. We were your average couple. paid taxes, ss, and health insurance. We both sold our business so we could have quality life together. when was enough, enough… My husband suffered a very serious stroke and now depends on me 24/7, wheelchair bound, Our life’s changed forever. We have lost our health insurance, I get no ssi for my husband. I have recently bought five arces of land. My over all plan is not to become totally independant, only more aware of what I can do. I was told my husband would never live outside of a nursing home, he has been with me here at home for four years. Yes, it is a lot of work, but, I did what I believed in… not what I was told. Even the smallest thing you do, Do for yourself… it will put a smile on your face… believe me. giggle pk

  26. Amy says:

    I’m very intriqued with idea of living off grid and have been for some time. It sounds like just as folks are wanting total “freedom” they are already looking for groups of people to align with. I think that living off the land is highly admirable and a solution for people struggling to survive in a money-rich world that has left them behind. But I also think that it should be stressed that we have the luxury of knowing that our for-fathers have already been through this like someone else mentioned. We built our country on that journey so anyone willing to commit to that legacy along with living off the land or off the grid is a friend of mine. I don’t mind paying taxes, voting, and doing my part to protect society because I live in one of the greatest countries where I am even allowed to explore the idea of living off the grid. It is my dream to be self-sufficient one day on a huge piece of land where I garden and have solar and wind-power. I like the idea that if disaster hits, my family would come to me for help and to live well. Maybe someone should set up a site where we all can talk and support each other as well as teach each other what we have learned in our own endeavors.

  27. Amy says:

    Is anyone in Alabama looking to live this lifestyle? I want to but am single and couldn’t do it on my own.

  28. Heather D says:

    I think that living off the grid is exciting and would become useful down the line. I aim to learn all that I can to be able to live off the land if need be. What is 2012 does happen and only hundreds of us survive…? It would be like starting over almost…only we know is advance and could prepare. I’m not saying that it will happen and I’m not saying it won’t. All I’m saying is that if something happens and I survive then I’ll wanna keep on surviving…

  29. JIM AND TERRI says:


  30. This site is very interesting.It’s funny of all the people(males and females) that are having the same thoughts of living off grid.I believe it can be done,but are we really ready to give up cell phone,TV,warm running water,air con,and I could name numerous other things.How would you feed your livestock? winters are pretty hard sometime.You would have to have so kind of income for seeds for garden.What about if it didn’t rain,water for the garden and livestock.There are a lot of unknowns.( BUT,I think I am about ready to try)I am a 60 year old male divorced and ready for new adventure

  31. DAWN says:

    Hello everyone; my name is dawn, I to am interested in living off the grid, and in response to Amy’s thought of not being able cause she is a family of one and or maybe she may feel incapable being a female, my youngest daughter and I do intend to try and live off the grid as you call it, we are saveing money,and looking for land with no restrictions,and willing to learn all we can to do so. and if you like,We will share any thing we learn freely. all you have to do is ask. now I will say that we should all help each other for free.

  32. PJ says:

    My girlfriend and I have just begun taking our first steps on backing out of the system, off “The Grid” if you will, by ridding ourselves of useless “stuff”. We both have been feeling a sense of change in the air, something wicked this way comes, as it seems the rest of you “feel” as well, or you wouldn’t be discussing how to leave the only life we’ve all ever known for simpler yet much harsher lifestyles. So,

    I agree with Dawn’s view of helping each other….without a price tag attached. Knowledge is best honored when shared openly and freely with others to enlighten and teach.

    We have become so engrossed with our own “success” we tend to miss opportunities to help those in need and truly be involved and apart of one anothers lives, the way I remember life as a kid growing up in the seventies in New England.

    We all have eyes and ears, we understand where things seem to be heading, downhill and picking up speed. There are (a lot)of people on this planet that have been preparing for life without @ least 5.5 billion of us (over eaters) for quite some time now, and the means for ridding the planet of this amount of people will not be pretty. Mother nature will do her part, The Heavens will do theirs as well, the one I’m afraid of is man. The only species on this planet with the capability of annihilating it. Willfully. Very scary stuff, yet real.

    I believe we have the power to create any reality we choose…just like the one we are trying to escape from. It is man made if you really think about it.

    I am interested in hearing from people and what you have to say, so feel free to email me @ We are two individuals with incredible heart and compassion for humanity, we are parents and loving human beings. Sounds weird to you, feel free not to respond. If it sounds like your heart too, love to hear from you.


  33. FRED says:


  34. Dawn says:

    Well thanks for the response,to my thoughts. My intention is not to scare anyone but just to make us all think, you see our economy doe;snt look good now and it doe’snt show signs of improving,but even that is not my only reason for wanting to live off the grid,you see I’ve been homeless with my children,and hungry,some times things happen to good people who are trying,your down sizes and you and yours are out. so what do you do? you learn, you find better solutions, well I remembered back when I was young, and my grandparents were alive, how we lived, no running water,no gas heat, electric,just wood for heating and cooking,candles or karosen for light,draw water from the well, or creek, no phone, we raised cows,pigs, chickens, raise food for animals and us,canned,smoked,cured,fished, we lived good,we did’nt get sick, we were healthy,strong,happy,now that is what i call living,I intend to be as selfreliant as posible,although i do like some of the modern convinces,such as the net it is the best way i know get meet peolple like us and to learn the things i need to learn to complete my goal.also i would like to leave all of what i’ve learned to my children and so on,and i want my land to stay in good health as it is passed down.oh I should let you all know i found 15 acres ,all old woods meaning that no one has built on it,so now my dream wish me luck. and yes any thing i learn i will gladly share. freely

  35. Roy says:

    To: wvhomesteader… I would love to join your homestead…. email me:

  36. stacey says:

    Im just now getting started on liveing off the land although i was bor and raised in souther mississippi,i had gotten caught up in (keeping up with the jones).So i guess im just looking for advice on the do’s and dont’s.

  37. Jparton says:

    Great site, great info, great comments… thanks for blogging!

    While this “off-grid” living movement has been gaining momentum for some time now, including my own family’s interest in it, I have to ask you all to contemplate on and honestly answer the following question…

    If movies like “Avatar” and “2012” had never been made/released, do you think that there would ever have been:

    – this much interest generated on “off-grid” living?
    – this many people interested in doing so?
    – this much urgency to do so by a certain date (ie. 2012)?

    For our family, we truly want this as a way of life so that we may become more eco-concious of what we take from and give back to our planet (as custodians of this planet) for the next generation.

    Even with understanding that this is a road less travelled, and that it is certainly NOT for the faint of heart (due this lifestyle’s daily demands and commitments necessary to achieve a successful harvest and continuous food supply), it’s become a majority vote in our family that we continue our family’s transition back to the more basic way of life.

    We love technology as much as the next person, when it is used as a tool to connect people to one another and to provide pertinent information, but when it’s misused or applied inappropriately (haldron collider, internet porn, spamming, etc.) then this same technology is no longer being used as a productive tool providing a viable service.

    Thanks everyone, and God Bless!

  38. BJ says:

    anyone who wants to network about homesteading is welcome to contact me at
    I am mother to 12. We are a hardy bunch (think LHOP)…and after living the suburban life while teaching self-reliance, I believe we are ready to return full-bore to a self-reliant off grid existence. I just need to decide is we go to th Appalachains (benefit: altitude and stable geographic underfoundations in case of natural disaster) or Montana…might be better in case of economic collapse and more isolated from hordes of people. In either location, we are now looking for about 200 acres abutting a national forest/park and will build a large earth-contact off grid home with plenty of common space and outbuildings to begin with, and help each other build additional earth contact “pod” homes. I WANT somewhere with a good winter…makes some winter food storage easier and provides rest to the land.

    With a mule, a few horses, a pair of goats, bees, chickens. ducks, a few good dogs (working dogs, not fufu animals), and a combination of year-round greenhouse gardening/seasonal minifarming with lots of storage and planning ahead, I am excited about starting next year.

    I am a nurse (trained as a family practitioner) who has always informally taught natural living and other “survival” skills. Fortunately, my partner is the really smart one…and our kids have every combined skill anyone could need to prosper. We are even blessed to have our own cultural and artistic resources. We would love to network with truly likeminded families (large and small…yes that includes families of 1!!!).

  39. ADRIAN says:

    wow, i am so glad i found this forum. I’m only 20 years old and i am completely aware of the evilness of mankind and what it has done to our earth. I would love to one day get away from everything! i really like having people around to love, laugh and share experiences with. I really want to live off the grid asap but it would be amazing if somehow we could form say a little “society” like the movie “the beach” with leonardo in it. I’d rather live on a beautiful island off the land instead of somewhere in america. ( i hate winter!) give me an email cuz i wanna play! lol

  40. crow says:

    Hello everyone-
    My boyfriend and I are currently seeking to purchase property in W.VA or VA. I am a registered nurse, who gardens, cans food, and has farming eperience throughout my life. My boyfriend is an offshore fisherman, here in FL. He is mechanically and electrically inclined. He can build anything, and worked during hurrican katrina-helping to rebuild housing for the victims. He is use to being out in the Gulf-using battery-power and propane. He has knowledge of how to build wind power generators, solar panels, etc,,,I will still work in a hospital until we have what we need to survive. We are currently selling our home in Fl, but if it doesnt sell, we will just have to keep making the high payments until it does.We are investing in arms, as well. We are also purchasing a bow, in case we run out of ammo to hunt.We are currently learning how to tan hides.Like the rest of you, we MUST become self-suficient-it is our only means of survival, I fear. We will also live in a travel trailer if the property we find does noo have a home on it. I guess the point I am trying to make is this:be prepared. It is simple yet vital.Please, dont go out into the woods and starve or freeze to death, as others recently have done.There are the basic needs we must have to live. I work very hard, and spend no money, so we can purchase what we need to live off-grid.We have planned this since our trip to WY last August. If anyone is interested in communicating with us, you may email We are lightwalkers-and seeking spiritual growth and freedom of self-a goal we will soon obtain. We will arrive in May 2010. There is peace in the light-

  41. Lost in the Woods says:

    I am just tired of the government and banks having their hands so deep in my pockets. I pay $50,000 a year in interest have big mortgage nice house. Property taxes, income tax, sales tax, have to pay $7500 to hook up to city water plus parts and labor then monthly bills, $3500 for power transformer then monthly bills now health care. I even have to pay to license my dogs etc etc etc. If I spent that much cash as i go I could have a mansion in 5 years with no interest payments. But still property tax. I am a slave to the bank. Going to file bankruptcy and start simple life. No credit just cash. proplem is where do you live to save enough to get started?

  42. Carnette says:

    I have always longed to live off the land. I think I was born in the wrong era :-) I have enjoyed all the inspirational, encouraging and informative posts here and would like to learn more about “off grid” living.

    The last of my four chickadees will be going off to college this year so I plan on attending homestead classes to learn as much as I possibly can and start living my dream.

    If anyone has had experience with an “off grid” resort, please let me know as I would like to see what I am getting myself into while I explore and persue this venture.

    I am also of the mind of sharing freely so I am more than happy to share whatever I learn. I appreciate all of you very much!

    Thank you and please e-mail me at

  43. In replie to Off grid ebert.
    I know where your coming from.
    I clicked on your name and it brought me to a Homestead realtor site.
    I can see why you would object to the idea of free land.
    Isn’t profitable.
    Money hasn’t stopped the population problem explosion on our planet.
    Robs us of our true freedom we should have and forces us into servitude debt.

    I alway’s felt the saying; You can’t have your cake and eat it to. was so stupid. What is the point in having cake at all, if it isn’t to be eating.
    Such thinking is why we lost our Freedom in the first place.
    Its time the people stood up to the oppressors in this world.
    Took back what is rightfully ours.
    Refuse to be charged for it.

  44. Thomas. So what happens when you have a piece of land that you think is yours because you park your motorhome there, but then someone else parks their motorhome over the hill. Do you say “Go away; I was here first.” or do you say “All land is free and I don’t own it so you park where you want.”? What if you need a certain amount of land in order to live, plant food, keep livestock? If not government or the market, who is to say how much land that is? Is it an acre? Five? Fifty? Does it change when you’re in the arid West Vs the wet southeast? Are we all just supposed to start fighting over land again with the meanest, most-willing-to-murder of us getting the land like we did before laws and governments? Or are you envisioning some sort of utopia where we all just magically get along and everyone gets a free X amount of acres as their birthright? Well what happens when we keep breeding and now there are no more acres to be given away because they’re all taken and there are too many newborns and not enough people dying off in time? Does land get passed down from father to son? What if the father has five sons? Do they split it up and, if so, would it still be enough to live on? If you don’t have enough land, how do you acquire more?

    I think your line of thinking is wishful, lazy and irresponsible. You only think about what you want and you blame the government because you don’t have it. The reality is the reality and you either work to improve it or you don’t. But wishing that land was free isn’t going to make it free and you don’t have enough guns in this world to “rise up against your oppressors” and do so. Your power is in your vote. If you don’t like the government, vote the A-holes out. But don’t sit there and accuse me (eg “I came to this site and it had real estate for sale on it”) of being some sort of capitalistic moneygrubber who keeps people like you from living your God-given life. I am not your problem and neither are real estate agents. Your problem is that you want something for nothing and can’t see past your own wants to understand the implications of “free land for all” which would, essentially, be total chaos and war with everyone against everyone over limited land and resources that we all think we have a right to.

    If you want to talk about who has a RIGHT to this land, give it back to the Native Americans and take your ass back to Europe or wherever it was your ancestors came from. Unless your heritage and race is predominately Native America this land is NOT your God Given birthright.

    Put a sock in it.

  45. Thomas G Fruge says:

    It seems there is alot of us who share the same feelings about this society we live in.
    It would be nice to come together and meet others who share the dream of being free,independent,having the freedom to live freely off the land.
    To form a colony who survival depends on people working together,helping each other, to help provide for the needs of all.
    Not to serve individuals seeking power and control over our lives.
    To be free of the control that money has on our lives.
    We need leaders, not rulers.
    If there is such a movement in this world today.
    I would like to be part of it.

  46. Kim Hill says:

    I’ve been reading “homesteading” websites and blogs for a couple years. I’m surprised that I’ve not seen much if anything in Florida. Any classes in my neck of the woods that yall know about?

  47. russell says:

    I just bought 50 acres. I learned to hunt, fish, garden and butcher animals from my dad growing up and I have tought myself many things about living off the land. I am a blessed man and give all credit to my Lord and Savior. Remember people, you can do all things through Christ that strengthens you and the things that don’t kill you only make you stronger. I live off grid and it is absolutely wonderful! I have gotten healthier because of less stress. You can do it. You don’t have to go all out as I have. There are many ways to start out and expand as you get stronger. JUST DO IT!

  48. lost in the woods says:

    I have found forty acres in washington to be off grid for 50,000 get $2300 a month in pension only 38 years old. own excavator equipmnet do concrete and fondadtion I my self would got there today and live in a tent without power. Until I could build my own house cash as I go. Filed bankrupcty cause I owe 520000 on this place worth 380000 pay 32000 a year in interest!!! 32000 a year cash towRDS YOUR HOUSE ESPECIlly since i have tools and know how!! Problem is my wife wont go and I love her!!!!! next step is to give up on life and dreams. or am i ruining hers!!!

  49. Lynette says:

    In reply to wvhomesteader… my family and I live in Southwest Virginia and travel to WV every week for my husband’s job. We own an appliance repair business. We have recently started planning a self-sufficient life. We are in the early stages of planning, but are using this time to start learning everything we can.

    I can sympathize with what you said about losing most of your family. We also lost many family and friends over the years because of our “different beliefs”. We homeschool our children and absolutely love everything about pioneering and homesteading. We are looking to rent (and later buy) a home with more land than what we have now. We only have about 1 acre and it’s all hill-side. Our neighbors are right on top of us and some would kill any animals we tried to keep.

    Feel free to write back to us. We would love to start networking with others living (or trying to live) this lifestyle. God bless!

  50. KC says:

    Would you all join me and others to continue Building upon 9,220 acres?living off the land. no slave wages, we grow our own food. many people coming together with different talents. a brotherhood of men and a Sisterhood of women working as one. Not a religious group with control over your life but a mutual meeting of the minds with the same goal of living a self reliant life away from the rat race where your not stuck in a cubical or a dark noisy factory, away from the 9 to 5 grind. Your tan and healthy because your outside in the sunshine and you don’t get sick from all the chemicals found in grocery store foods. we grow fresh fruit and vegetables and raise chickens. The large common house is full of activity. many woman,wives,daughters and sisters are cooking and chatting while sharing recipes. some men are in the tool barn chatting in the shade, some men are next to the south field learning about bee’s and honey that they sell along with many other ways we make money, like home-made soap and leather goods,everything from key-chains to high quality saddles. some people to mail order and others assemble products at home but no one ever works more the 2 to 3 hours a day unless they enjoy what they do and many people enjoy working together because they don’t have the pressure of a mortgage and car payments. everyone is debt free because when they join us they sell everything and give everything they have to everyone. as some millionaires know, money only brings more stress because the more you own the more stress you have. if you want to live free in with us.we will teach you a trade or use your talent,like art, carving,working clay or whatever. we don’t worry about money because we have enough to go around. If this is appeals to you and you always wanted to escape the rat race then email me at

  51. RickDownSouth says:

    Love seeing this conversation. Spent a good portion of my childhood running around the north woods of Michigan’s UP. Learned to hunt, fish, etc. Mom was a proto-hippie – learned to can and grow veggies – she even made our clothes! I’ve gotten together with my siblings to prep for buying a decent chunk of land somewhere in the middle states, and get off grid. We’ll be taking classes in sus-livin and such. We’re all professional types, but miss that feeling of being un-tethered. Gotta go with it.

  52. Patty says:

    My 67 year old mother worked very hard all her life, never was un-employed, she died of cancer with $427 in the bank ! Before we know it we are at the end of our journey…and have absolutely nothing to show for it. I remember being a kid and sharing a house in the hot summer heat with all the neighborhood kids on the block…no one was going out to buy “bottled water”. Life was so free and pure. All this commercialism has gotten to me. I am not who I want to be, I am not the wife I want to be nor the mother. I find myself yelling at my kids over frivolous things because I feel over whelmed and cornered by society. I want to live off the Grid more than anything ( before it’s too late ) but I must plan, and strategize well for If I leave my existing life, I do NOT want to return. I am tired of making everyone else rich at my expense…( I find myself dreaming of a perfect world with animals and vegetables with no internet and no phones…ahhhh can’t wait. Thank you for letting me vent !!

  53. Rick says:

    understand the feelings, All your posts have brought back so many memories. Now I’m 51 years old, crippled, but still working toward my dream. I’ve always wanted to go off into the wild.
    Between 8th and 9th grade I left home and lived in the Maryland woods for 32 days. Then in my early 20’s I lived in Louisiana in a primitive cabin for 8 months. I had a blast both times.
    My kids are grown leading their lives. I really enjoyed teaching my kids and their friends survival/self reliant skills.
    Now I live in the Big Belt Mountains of Montana. We have 20 acres. We are surrounded by thousands of acres of national forest lands. We need help around our place. In return we are willing to teach and serve as a sort of base camp for anyone that wants to go into the wild. You can test your skills with day trips, overnighters, week long trips, etc.
    You can google map the area by using Nelson Montana, or York Montana.
    Email us at

    Rick & Cher
    Pooh Corners Farm
    Helena MT 59602

  54. randy says:

    i live in a one room cabin with a loft,i use car batteries and oil lamps.i bath in the river, i got a outhouse for a toilet.i drink and cook with rain water,wash my clothes with rain water.i eat alot of wild plants, i grow a garden and live off alot of fresh kill,birds,rabbits,turtle,fish and porcipine.i work for a farmer near by so lots of fresh eggs and milk.beef also i dry and can alot of different things also.cost me less than $20 a wk to gross income is $450 a just imagine the money i save living this way.

  55. david says:

    amy what part of alabama you at

  56. Lakalm says:

    PJ: “Ridding the planet of this many people will not be easy”? Then you say you & your girlfriend are loving parents? Why don’t you believe in ridding the planet of your own children? Aren’t they part of the “5.5 billion”? Actually it’s 6.5 billion. Why don’t we start with them? Don’t you know that overpopulation is a myth set up to kill people? Don’t you know that the entire world’s population would fit into two-thirds of Australia, with room left over, for a plot of land for every man, woman, and child in the world? There are more than enough resources for all, they are purposely destroyed by eugenicists. You believe their lies and don’t say you are a compassionate person. You are a eugenicist.

  57. Lakalm says:

    Off Grid Ebert: No, the world’s population is in decline. It’s bad, not good, when a country doesn’t have a replacement birthrate, or even a low birthrate. It causes the country to go in a decline. So you defeat your own eugenicist goal.

    Candidates are not elected, they’re selected ahead of time.

    Your property is owned by the government and you pay them rent that you call property taxes.

    The land in America was given to people who were willing to farm it. Some states still allow squatter’s rights to people who take possession of foreclosures (for free).

    People lived in America before the Indians. The Indians didn’t dislike guns or alcohol, they just didn’t invent anything, not even the wheel or a written language. Anyone could overtake them because they didn’t unite, or have a government like you espouse. They fought with each other, you know, “chaos” over land rights. No one could overtake the Mayans, thousands of yrs. before the Am. Indian, because they built cities, underground sewers, had a written language, were skilled mathematicians, had a government, and still have the most accurate calendar in the world.

  58. Dune says:

    It seems there are a lot of good thoughts and ideas on this subject, but it still frustrates me that living completely off the grid is still impossible. My wife and I own our land outright, have no debts and grow our own food, but no matter how self sufficient we try to become we still have to pay property taxes, so we MUST involve ourselves with money – and money is part of the grid!

  59. EmilyInMO says:

    I am so glad I found this site. Everyone’s comments have helped me realize that I’m not the only one who feels this way. I have recently been visiting a small community of Mennonites who live completely off the land and am determined to join them. Not the religion, but the whole idea that we don’t need money and corporate greed and the horrible politicians who run this country to survive. We only need what God intended us to have- a good work ethic, a piece of land, common sense, and compassion for all living things. I do have compassion for those who I feel are ruining this world, but that doesn’t mean I want to support them or live with them. I just feel sorry for them because they cause so much suffering in this world just to make buck thinking that money is all that matters. But they all find out one way or another that money can’t buy you happiness- only stress, time away from your family, and an early death. I am so sick of all the chemicals they pump into our food to make it taste so good its addictive almost. I highly recommend watching “The Beautiful Truth” and “Food, Inc”. They literally scared me to death that I have been putting that crap into my body unknowingly. I am planning to go completely off-grid, however I am single and it will take me time to save up the money. I plan on buying a house with a big piece of land and slowly converting everything to solar and wind power and growing, making, canning and storing all of my own food. It will take several years I’m sure, but I believe that it will be worth it all in the long run. I have no doubt that this is how God intended us to live and by going back to the basics we will be walking closer to Him each and every day. He made this world and loves it and all we do is destroy it. I live in the Ozarks which has a fairly good growing season. I grew up on a farm and have a pretty good background to get started with all the farming and gardening. Wish me luck!

  60. Victoria says:

    wow, love so many of the comments here. except for laklam, whose facts seem all wrong. anyway, i’ve been in this ratrace too long and except for 2 years in guatemala, have been miserable being a slave to a job. i can’t imagine anything more humiliating than having to continue being someone’s trained monkey. that’s how i feel. but as a single mom with a small son, i don’t see being able to do it alone. plus i think it’d be very lonely for me but especially for my son. i’m in new york. seems like i’m the only yankee here. lol.

    good luck to all!

  61. John says:

    I didnt realise this was going on in America.
    I was looking at little farms earlier today and ended up on an American website as i had originally been looking for a few acres in Ireland but land is so expensive here. :(.

    Ive seen nice lots of 20-30 acres in the US in beautiful areas for what 3 or 4 acres would cost over here. Everything is overvalued over here except for human life.

    My dream is to find a place i can call my own build a simple house, have some chickens, a cow, some goats,plots for vegetables,dog for company and protecting the animals etc.

    I wish everyone the best of luck in their journeys and hope ye find what ye are looking for as i hope i will too.

  62. Danny Romero says:

    Love the idea that so many people with the desire of living off the land. Keep up the great search and soon we will all find our place off the grid too! I’m looking to move out from Dallas and get rolling asap.

  63. Richard ( Crazyhorse) says:

    Anything is possible! I’m glad to see us comming together everyone I talk to thinks I’m crazy lol.




  64. Allyson says:


  65. John Gilbert says:

    Back in shape(mostly…)from a quadruple bypass a year ago last June…I’ve been trained in jungle survival techniques with the USMC and combat field medical procedures as a combat medical corpsman, USN, stationed with the marines during ‘Nam…’66 – ’69.Medical skills are rusty (to say the least…)but I am still adept at the basics. I have emergency survival skills (short term…)and I’m willing to partner up with some of you who have a piece of ground to share. I’m on a fixed income, but have the resources to obtain food in bulk, with extended (10 year) shelf life…I have some camping gear, survival tools and a 4 wheel drive older model pickup and a canoe…let’s start a commune…like interested people can contact me by email

  66. RoN says:

    I have two boys and a wife and are ready to make our escape anyone with land needing help working me and my wife are hardworkers and desperate to get are kids away from this greed filled world. We are a chritian family with good morals and would welcome a chance to help someone in need for a place to raise are kids naturally.We are very serious and would love to hear from anyone with some good ideas.

  67. Melody says:

    I have been reading and dreaming of living off grid for many years..I like the yurts also..I to am single and dont see it happing on my own.Most people I talk to think Iam nuts.I have raised many animals for meat and furs and milking goats.I wish I could at least find land here in wv to rent i could start out in a camper..

  68. Nikki says:

    I’m working on a spiritual and survival website and what Russel said above , I believe in May of this year, I truly commend. I am wanting to eventually get off the grid completely b/c I feel this world is going into a place I do not want to follow. My daughter and I , and possibly others, have been getting up ideas about what to do and get together and also classes. Anyone have any suggestions or links please email me

    Thank you all and God Bless ….
    Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ Rocks! ,
    Nikki 😀

  69. Travis says:

    I am greatly interested in living off the land. I’m an able bodied 23 year old man who was military trained and highly motivated. I’m eager to hear about anyone who has something set up already or who would like to set something up with me. Email me at if you’re like minded.

  70. v & w says:

    Hi all! We are an early 50’s couple, Christian. Saved. We are seeking other similar couples/families that are interested in perhaps getting to know one another as friends. We would like to eventually down size and live off the land. We know a lot already and have grown our own veggies,fruit for many years. My wife is right off a farm, so that helps too. If you are a couple/family that is serious or even semi-serious about getting away from (most) of the world and live near one another to help, encourage etc one another, then please leave a note in this forum. Thanks Blessings v & w

  71. Basics55 says:

    Wow! Where do I start? I am extremely impressed with this website. I am a 41 year old divorced woman who has gone through a traumatic experience this past couple years. I have been researching the economy and writing a book on how to bring employment back to America. During my research I ran into every religion out there and each one has something to add to the 2012 books that are out there. I use to say “knowledge is power”, but now I say “ignorance is bliss”. We really don’t want to know what we know, but we do know it. So many people don’t see what is real and all of you seem to recognize these changes we are going through and you are reacting appropriately. Not many people have the guts to react to change as quickly as you are! Hurray for you. I myself want to start living off the grid. I own a gun and ammo and can learn anything quickly. I love camping and outdoors, have an 8 person tent – have many old time recipes from my mother who grew up in world war ii on a farm. Recipes from scratch for sure. I don’t have a lot of money. I have been unemployed for 2 years after 5 years at General Motors. I would love to be a part of a team of survivors, but one thing we all need to be cautious and leary of. If I may recommend some precautionary measures, please don’t take this the wrong way. I would HIGHLY SUGGEST LEAVING LOCATIONS OF YOUR LAND OFF OF THIS WEBSITE. I would save them for separate emails.

    Anyone interested in taking a 41 year old – still good lookin smart, female under their wing – email me at Willing to travel far.

  72. Brian says:

    Am planning on retiring off the grid in Mexico, I just purchsed 1600 acres of property in the mountains, lots of fresh water two rivers and many streams. Property taxes 123.00USD per year. I will be building cabins on the property for people who want to work and live there. No charge but I also don’t pay any wages. My goal is to build ten acres of greenhouses to supply the nearest towns with fresh veggies, we will be solar powered and fertilize the plants from the tilapia pools.(fish ponds) In two years I expect to be in a complete self existing environment. This has been my lifelong dream. I will soon have a web site which I will publish here.

    This is a great forum and I love all the different ideas.

  73. red says:

    i live in mo and the amish live this way very well

  74. red says:

    they live on chickens goats sheep and rabbit meat mainly then there gardens and gathering

  75. stephanie says:

    hi all, i am interested in figuring out how to “live without working” in the city. Yes! I want to see adobe homes built in Kansas City on empty lots. more community gardens. and urban orchids. Can we survive by eating all the nuts, harvesting fruit from trees, and growing some veggies? Maybe raising some hens? And can we do this without owning acres and doing mass farming?

  76. Basics55 says:


    Can you shoot me an email at I am interested in talking with you.


  77. Rachel says:

    I am hearing more & more that the FDA is wanting to completely control how food is produced and sold so the small home gradens may come under fire but I hope that will NEVER happen. I live in AL and want to get as much info about homesteading, which for a single person can be done on one acre of land with chickens, food garde, herb garden and to have a water source such as a well. I am starting a minimalist lifestyle and will eventually go completely “off grid” when money is saved up to purchase small piece of land in a safe part of the state. I would encourage EVERY person to go “off grid” since power companies will eventually ration electricity and water companies will do the same I am sure in time. The signs are in front of us if we pay close attention to them! Start preparing now. Also look into backpacking because if power grids go down, there will be no access to gasoline for vehicles to be driven. Wish more states had bike lanes to be able to bike wherever you need to go but most do not since bikes are not used to travel long distances. I am also walking more around town to get conditioned a bit.

  78. Sonny says:

    I have read several articles about that topic also. Pretty sure it will impact the small town local produce type markets (if it ever passes) but so far it does not appear to impact homestead or home gardens unless you sell your stores at a market. You can still barter or work locally with families.

    Check out my website at: My wife and I purchased 70 acres in NW West Virginia. I still work right now and that has allowed us to pay off the land and all that we have built. We installed a 2.5kw solar system (off-grid) but still use a propane generator for backup on those long cloudy weeks. We also built a root cellar and stocked it up this year with much from our garden (canning).

  79. Daniel says:

    Just a thought… I noticed that most people here are from the states and they seems to be mentally prisoners from their country. Free yourselves, open your minds, open your eyes, the world is bigger than the states… There are still quite a few countries with better climate that you can easily live off the grid. Cheap property price, no tax, much more freedom. I quit Canada 11 years ago and move to Bolivia to accomplish just that. I bought 100 acres for 3500$ with oranges, mangoes, bananas, avocados, pineapples, papayas etc. already planted. Built a small wood house from 5 big trees. Palm roof. Cement floor, running water from a pump and a tank. 500 square foot for under a 1000$ (including pump and tank) not bad! Quite an experience! It was nice while it lasted, but I felt alone (I was only 21 at the time!) I needed a wife… Girls at the time didn’t seem so interested in my lifestyle so I ended up moving back to the city. Now, I’m planning to go back but I really want to be prepared this time. My advice to everyone: try to acquire as many skills as you can before you try it, it will make the shift easier. Having a group of persons would be ideal but complicated unless you’re dealing with very intelligent people. Democracy does not work when your average Joe is a proud member of idiocracy (watch the movie).

  80. Hidden Mountain says:

    Well, this idea does seem to be gaining momentum!

    Where to start,,,, I’m in BC Canada, living way off grid now for 14 years. Blessed and trusting YHWY. One day at a time sweet Jesus, literally.

    I am your basic squatter, although I do loath that term. I prefer to think of myself, and my wife, as “pioneers”. Just like our forefathers did it. (Except they didn’t have “Big Brother” breathing down their necks!)

    When I lost my business to corrupt swindlers and the like, at the age of 33, I took my pup tent and a little camping gear, my Bible and a ton of faith, and landed in the woods at the end of a logging road. I was fortunate to have a couple of other folks here already, and it was nice to have the company, but trust me, unless everyone is on the same page spiritually and morally and mentally, you will have problems! I still “love my neighbors” but from a distance!

    I have had so many amazing experiences that I could, (and should, I know) write a book. I have come from my pup tent, candles and Bible to building a huge treehouse with hydro power from the creek and satellite internet on the roof! God is so good!

    Am I worried about not having title? No. It all belongs to God, He’s just really nice and lets me live here! He has blessed me with a good job, (money still comes in handy), a wonderful wife, and an old Ford 4×4 on propane! I am so blessed and thank Him continually.

    I encourage all who are wanting to get “off the grid” to do it. But, know this, it will be incredibly hard at times, and to do it without a personal relationship with God would be unthinkable to me. I had one stretch of winter about 8 years ago when I was all alone up here in the middle of winter for 4 months. No internet then, just my Bible and a cat, (gotta have vermin control!) I almost lost my marbles, but if not for God, I would have.

    Anyway, I’m rambling here……God’s Richest blessings to you all! 10-4!

  81. Where do I start says:

    Hidden Mountain… how did you do the hydro power? Homemade? Do you live off the land to eat?

  82. KC says:

    Thank you my brothers and sisters who are interested in my news letter about living off the grid and wanting to join our community of living a simple life off the grid. We have welcomed many of you but of course we can’t bring everyone into our community until we acquire more resources like land and funds to be able to live free from outside government influences. We keep a low profile and don’t like to depend on anyone or anything but at the same time we do depend on people with resources to join us and contribute to our simple way of life, away from traffic, doing art or gardening or leather crafts or other crafts and hobbies.Of course we men work as a team just as the women do. The men will build the cabins for our members and the woman will sew the quits and such. We are not a big religious cult, we are mostly Christians living together. We won’t shove a bible under your nose and order you around. We are more about going back in time and living a more simple life, like the Indians did or early settlers. We eat natural foods from our gardens, we never,ever have been sick, we have 4 elders in their 90’s and healthy, walking around. Our newsletters can only go to so many people. if your interested to be on the list,email
    Peace my brothers and sisters.KC

  83. lisa says:

    I have wanted to live off grid most of my life. I also feel like I was born in the wrong era. I no longer want to be part of this consumer-driven society working my behind off to pay the landlord, utility companies and corporations (who are actually running the world).

    Please, if you are looking for helpers in your already-acquired land…I’m your girl. I am healthy and a very hard worker. I would like to meet others with the same mindset. I am willing to travel a long way if needed (would prefer a mountainous area. I am well-read as far as survival skills and can swing an axe as good as any man (well almost).

    Please contact me at

  84. lisa says:

    wvhomesteader: I am interested in your homestead. Please email me at

    thank you!

  85. Jacqueline says:

    Hello all! I want to let all know in Colorado where I live, there is a cooperative giving away plots of land for free! for you to farm, raise animals and livestock, and live in a clean chemical free society, my family and I have already gotten our land, and it isnt huge by any means (1/16 acre) it is enough to live on and grow plenty for our own needs and have a couple small animals. The amount of land you recieve depends on your family size and what you plan to use it for, we will be living in an RV initially, until we can build some 120sq ft buildings, which are small but you do not need a permit to build and are tax free or so I have heard. If anyone is interested, email me at , it was completely free didnt cost us a penny! I will email you link to the article and the contact info.

  86. Kristin says:

    We are located in Mid eastern Tennessee and offer various homesteading classes on our small farm. Some of our subjects include Cheese Making, Home Dairying, Family Cow Ownership, Home Laying Flock, and Solar Power. We can be reached via our website linked above.

  87. johnblue says:

    Great comments here! I too am wanting to start taking steps to get off grid. I live in northwest Georgia and although its not mountainous, its quite hilly and I like the climate. I’ve been contemplating buying some acreage (5 to 10) and living in a mini-house on it (as small and as rough as I can stand to start getting used to it).

    I may start with well water and an outhouse and solar heated warm water, etc., until I get an absorption field built. I’ll be working my in-city job since it pays well, until I get things done. I figure I’ll only build and improve as I can, paying cash. I’m sick of credit cards and the whole bank / finanical stuff.

    Eventually I want to be 90% or more off grid. I too am worried about doing it all alone though. It’d be nice to have a woman to share that life with. But for now I’m going to try it and take the first steps in creating that life. Its good to know so many are doing the same. I’ve been reading lots of green websites and blogs and those really help. I think several of you are wise in acquiring every skill possible before beginning that journey. My next steps are electrical wiring and welding classes at a local technical college. I’m handy with building things and coming up with ideas of how to do things. I’m lacking food cultivation skills though.

  88. johnblue says:

    OH, and good things to look at when getting started are county websites, for building regulations. Since I’m looking at buying the land, I have to make sure I can do on it anything I WANT to do on it. THAT seems to be a tricky part!

    At 39 and divorced with no kids, I feel like its time to get to the basics and get rid of the bad influences of a lot we see in today’s society. A more wholesome life awaits! :) Good luck to everybody!

  89. Larry says:

    Hello everyone. Just wanted to post that you can do anything you put your mind to. My wife and I got fedup with doing business with ripoff greedy customers in florida and sold all of our equipment and got away from high taxes and found property in WV and have set up our own off grid house from an old cabin on 30 acre of mountains. I did research for a few years before we made the move but it was supposed to be in the far future but as things worked out it happened sooner than we thought. And so far it is working out fine..We were able to get a lot of things off of ebay that we needed to start for much cheaper than going out and getting them from off grid supplyers. I guess that we have some advantages because I have always been a tinkerer and builder and do blacksmithing and welding and have a good working knolwledge of electric and basic masonry and carpentry. although some things take longer to figure out or to find things that we recycle to save money we are not pressed for time..It took some time to readjust to not having the disposable income that we used to have. the old american way of if you have a problem just throw money ay it to fix it. I is a challange and very rewarding to get the same results without the cash outlay. We had a 2 million dollar business that we liquidated and paid out debts and came away with just enough cash to buy our land and now we work selling craft items and do some service work at our leasure for income and basiclly for some things that we need to finish our cabin,food,gas and diesel. We sold a lot of our material things on ebay to get things that we really needed..We would entertain teaching for free and maybe with the right people start an off grid community to pool our resources to build a sustainable life style together. We can be contacted @ for advice or just for moral support

  90. Metal says:

    Hey everyone.

    I turned 42 in October, so I committed to about 42 acres of Texas high desert near the Guadeloupe Range, Dell City and El Paso this weekend and I’m in it to get off grid now too. My plan is to finish out my lease and stay with my present employer for a while longer, as I am going to take my time and unload my unnecessary possessions via Ebay. Meanwhile as I sell stuff, I’ll also be obtaining the things I’ll need to begin the off-grid systems, and in a year or two, I’m gone. Solar, wind, well, will set me back between 20-30 grand I figure, but I’ll just set up in style and concentrate on the cabin and stuff with power and water online first. That should make it easier.

    See ya there.

    Metal Detector
    Sorry my name and my nickname are too recognizable to use, but I don’t want my boss to find this post yet 😀

  91. Mindy says:

    Hi there!! My husband and I are currently overseas while he is finishing up in the military (here until beginning of 2012). We are hoping to live off the grid when we move back to the states…or at least find a decent place that we can begin the conversion. Our biggest problem is figuring out where to move. Most of my family lives in PA while his lives in TX. PA is too cold for year round growing and I really don’t want to live in TX :) We have thought about another country such as Belize but feeling that is way too far from family.

    I am an avid gardner and we also eat very basic. I eat mostly raw and vegan so we would definitley need to move somewhere with the ability for plenty of fruit year round. My husband eats whatever I make him and like I said very basic fruit, veggies, beans and he doesn’t eat meat in the house cause I don’t make it for him!! So we already have that down. I was a mechanic in the military and he is as well so we have repairs/building covered. I enjoy oil painting which I can sell and I have a fixed monthly income so money will be there…not huge but hey every little bit helps. My husband is strong with “security” so if the world does get taken over by zombies I think we will be ok :) Solar is a must because well I don’t see us ever giving up internet or curling up to a movie.

    I guess I’m just basically throwing this all out there and maybe someone has a recommendation on a decent part of the country for us or even another country!! I really love to read all the different stories here so keep em coming!!! Can’t wait to start our peaceful existence!!

    If you would like to contact me:

  92. Mindy says:

    Brian if you read this we would be very interested to learn more about what you are doing! Thanks!!

  93. Daniel says:

    Due to economic changes I am no longer employed. As everything has been taken away, we found ourselves asking what do we really need. We have decided that we can do fine even without electricity. Currently we can grow 100% of our food for a family of 4 using aquaponics with 300 pounds of fish and 400 sqFt growbed plus 6000 square feet of intensive organic garden as outlined in the book “how to grow more vegetables than you ever thought possible.” Its taken some time and many changes as we examine what we really need. Currently we can sell $1000 a month in goods produced on site and we require only $650 a month for expenses like net and power. Its a good life, I know it takes some labor, but its NOT a hard life. People living a hard life are doing it wrong! We are wanting to start a food forest where production per energy input is greatest. We have a well and land paid for. All building are now being built using using straw, clay, and rocks. Free local materials. There is abundance in nature if we learn to see it. For many who have land, everything we need is already there. I encourage you all to live the homestead dream! It is possible, and I promise you will not look back at life on your death bed and with you had more hours of work a nicer car or bigger house. No, its people that are important! I have seen to many die broken after a long employed/slave life. Full of regret they never did get “there.” Others have to work a part time job to keep the lights on after retirement and so they only then start learning to live with less. Also, people are a real asset, a community to raise houses for example is worth a lot! Doing alone causes many delays for us.

    -Bless you all! Its time to find a whole new way of life, one where money and greed do not suck the life out of us!

  94. Katrina says:

    Hello, I am interested in homesteading. I have read many books and magazines. I am trying to survive out here on a fixed income and I want to homestead. I know there will be much hard work involved and I am up to the task. I am just sooooooo, lost and I don’t know where to go to get started help!…

  95. Richard Hall says:

    My name is Richard and I am 51 yrs old and still in good shape. I spent most of my life hating life. Im intellegent and hard working, creative, good with my mind and my hands. I’m a christian and I want to go off grid. Just not alone. Looking for a female with same desires.

  96. Nan says:

    I am a 42 yrs. old female looking to join an already existing community. I’ve wanted to do this for years, and now is the time. Would love to get there and help work towards the common goal. I consider myself an over acheiver at anything I apply myself to. Am very good at a multitude of things, basically anything I put my hands to. Can paint, cook, gardening, hunt, sew…etc. I have some medical training too.
    I’m looking for someone that already has the land with room to grow for others to exist there and help.
    Please contact me at:, as I am ready to go now.

  97. Brian says:

    38 white male from Louisiana looking for a female that wants to live the free life.

  98. Cynthia says:

    Wow..That is all I can say. With the times as they are, and being a single mother with 4 kids..I have been doing alot of research into living off the land, and getting off the grid as much as I possibly can. My Electric bill has gone up in the past month $500. a month, My Water and Sewer bill went up 3 months ago to $300. a month..I own my property, so I don’t have a mortgage, but I do pay $6,000. in property taxes..on less than a 1/2 acre! Rediculous! I don’t have TV, and I use the internet at the library..Not worth the extra expense. My food bill runs quite a bit too, even though I grow alot of my own stuff, and can constantly. I can hunt and fish, but with the rising cost of permits here..its driving me nuts! Not that I would eat the fish here with the polution! (I live 25 miles North of Filthadelphia)So yes..There is another Yank on I was raised as a horticulturist..and have LOTS of experience. I would love to find a place where I can live, and enjoy a healthy, inspired, and fruitful lifestyle..And if I could find a Great Single Guy interested in the same It would be Wonderful. I feel living off the land brings you closer to God, I do alot of praying and meditating while I am a Christian, I have 3 teenage boys, and a young daughter. Unfortunitly I have to wait till I have full custody of my daughter (Who by the way is all for this lifestyle) My boys may take a bit more But Thank you for all your Ideas, and if anyone can give me more advice,I would appreciate it. PLUS..I would love to network. my email is: God bless!

  99. We have year-round workshops, intensive weekend or week-long homesteading experiences for city slickers :-) , an annual Local Living Festival chock full of exhibitors, demonstrators and workshops and are establishing (online at first) a Homesteading College with a core curriculum of sustainable ag, renewable energy and green building. Located in Potsdam/Canton, NY in the St. Lawrence River Valley between the Adirondack Mountains and the great nation of Canada. Seven hours from NYC, 3 from Burlington, VT, 3 from Syracuse, NY, 1-1/2 from Ottawa, 2-1/4 from Montreal. Check our website to see which way the wind blows by the time you are reading this! :-) We have lots of dreams, and imagine plenty of folks share them as well…

  100. Terri says:

    I have wanted to homestead since I was a child and my parents told me how they wanted to before health issues stopped them from pursuing that dream. I am a teacher, and would love to be able to have a homestead and a home school for the other homesteaders children. I’m still tied to many financial responsibilities yet and cannot move toward my dream, except for the gardening and canning. I also sew and can bake and cook like nobody’s buisness…one day I will get there. One day. Good luck to all of you! I hope to be part of that family soon!

  101. Zach says:

    WVHOMESTEADER, please contact me at

  102. skooky says:

    Interested in Living “Back to Basics”, or off grid as most people call it. There is no way for me to be able to afford land to live on. I’m 44 and years old, male, single, in ohio, not afraid to work or do what needs to be done. I’m a fast learner and love learning new things. I have been fishing, camping living as simply as I can all my life. I grew up on a small farm where we had large gardens, canned, raised animals, etc. Anyone that needs help and work done on a homestead in exchange for living space, email me at

  103. Dawny says:

    hello all, I am 51 and live in alabama.I am interested in living off the grid,i have some experience in living without running water,plumbing,gas,electric,cooking on a wood cook stove, and heating with wood,and raiseing our own food,this is dew to my child hood,and since i’ve had a lot of life’s lessons handed to me.but also i’ve seen how our world is changing and i feel i should be ready for whatever may i do believe in trying to being self sustaining.and trying to live healther and smarter, better.and i love the country,i’m not rich,and since i was a single mom for some years, all my money has gone to raising my children, so i don’t have any saved. i am looking for about 10-20 acres of land that i can pay out as well as the name is dawny.

  104. WVHomesteader says:

    Ok guys, just read thru the post and replied to everyone who ask me to reply. So if you read this and have not heard from me, check your spam box.

    Things here at the WV Homestead has been somewhat hectic for me since the last week in August. The home burnt to the ground, and all food I raised and preserved was lost, including the jars I used to preserve it. Everything burnt up. I am getting started over, and have the shell of a house here. I also am still looking for interested parties who would like to be here on the homestead. Also still looking for all advice & tips that come along on this site.

    Good Luck to everybody, and I hope that everyone who wants off grid can make it off.

  105. WVHomesteader,

    That’s terrible news. I’m sorry all of that happened to you. But you sound very positive in the face of such hardships, which is a very important quality to have if you want to live off the grid. Please keep us updated on your progress. And good luck to you!

  106. JCinTX says:

    Wow Metal, you are taking the west Texas plunge, huh? That is something I’ve been looking at for years. My husband is interested but not really on board. He plays music for a hobby and doesn’t want to be too far from bars or dancehalls where he can do that. I’d go tomorrow if he would do it. I’d be very interested in hearing how that goes for you out there. There are a couple of blogs by west Texas off gridders. It sounds pretty difficult but very rewarding.

  107. Hello you OFF GRID adventurer types who like me seek to live a simple life in a pretty region of the USA and grow and store our own food and enjoy clean air and water. I recently bought this old house and restored it and moved into it. I also have a log house to rebuild. There i will put in the bathroom and washroom with the septic behind it. I have 6 acres surrounded by Amish farms and preserved English farms. There is NO Marseilles shale anywhere near me (4 counties north of me) so my water will always stay clean. We have state game lands surrounding us above and farms below. Behind the house you can see a 2000 ft mountain. I also own 3 acres of pristine trout stream and a clean creek and hand dug well dug over 200 yrs ago. I need people who want to help me finish this farm. It can be a special place that you can live at and watch it grow over time together with me and anyone else who may join us. I remember back in the 60’s moving to someone’s farm and helping them create a functioning farm off grid and self sustainable. Well all you have to do is email me at and we can talk about the work i am doing and i’ll send you a site showing my progress.

    Thanks Daniel a 50 something veteran

  108. brainmatter says:

    Just learn aquaponics and you can produce 3600lbs of tilapia per year with a greenhouse and some off grid energy investment. You will never run out of food.

  109. But what do you feed the tilapia? Seems like there has to be some inputs going in there somewhere.

  110. grog69 says:

    tilapia are omnivorous!!!!

    Think about it!!!!!

  111. Grog69!!!! So you grow a crop to feed them???? What kind of plant is best???? Thanks for your enthusiasm!!!!

  112. Allen says:

    To WVHomesteader, I’m also sorry to hear about your losses back in August~ I’m new to the site just stumbled onto these posts tonight,
    I too live here in WV and would try to help ya out any way I can dude.just email to singlepopof3@aol hope you’re doing well, and would like to see an update how it’s goin’ with the rebuild~
    Thanks and best wishes to all !! this was a great thread to read I enjoyed all the posts !

  113. Allen says:

    .. Oh and Off Grid Ebert I think they’ll eat just about anything ~those fish grog69 mentioned~
    kinda like wet pigs that live in a 4 foot deep pool instead of a pigpen, plus waaay more fun and easier to catch and an added bonus fish wont get loose and eat your crops lol

    I think a high percentage of fish nuggets and breaded frozen things are made from tilapia
    that get sold here in the U.S

  114. Allen says:

    here’s an interesting guy to check out~

    alot of good ideas about trapping heat, thermal mass and never having heat bills if you have southern facing windows, I think he built his in california or new mexico I can’t recall right off hand sorry… alot of his holmes still around today google it if you want to check him out architect Michael Reynolds ….or on youtube there’s a documentary called “garbageman” His homes may look a little peculiar but he has great ideas for using what’s around even old rubber tires!!

  115. Otto Offgrid says:

    Off Grid Ebert is a fool. You would not need a couple of acres per person, just per family. The family is the base, core unit of society. Individualism is the issue, not overpopulation (which is a myth). One family of 4-6 persons can easily homestead 3-5 acres sustainably, indefinately. I know because we are doing it. Look how long it’s been since your post. I haven’t been near a computer in so long I’m just now seeing it. The number of families on earth is far lower than the number of individuals. If you were to start along the eastern coast of the US and give every family one acre of arable land per member you would run out of people needing land by the time you got to the Ohio river valley. Don’t be a fool. Learn, don’t ust preach.

  116. Otto,

    I don’t doubt that if everyone lived as you do then we could live sustainably on this earth without worrying about overpopulation any time soon. HOWEVER, people DON’T live like you do. People live in 4,000 square food McMansions at the end of a culdesac. People drive gigantic SUVs and Pickups everywhere they go without ever actually putting anything in the back of them. People consume mountains of “stuff” wrapped in plastic, wrapped in plastic, bagged in plastic.

    I’m not trying to get on some environmentalist kick right now. I’m just saying that for you to think that everyone is going to homestead on 3-5 acres is wishful thinking. It won’t happen. By the time we get to the point that something like that HAS to happen it will be too late.

    I don’t appreciate the name calling either. I may have used the word “bitching” in my post, but I didn’t call anyone names. My issue was not with people wanting to homestead, or have families. My issue was with the people who think that the government should GIVE them free land.

    Yes, I have a lot to learn. It sounds like you’re preaching too. Does that mean you know everything there is to know?

  117. Heather says:

    Much like the rest of you, I have always wanted to live off the land. While my friends would dream of growing up and moving to a big, exciting city, I would dream of having a small plot of land that I could work with my hands. It has taken longer than I hoped, but my husband and I bought a home with 3/4 of an acre downtown in a city of 9,000 in 2005. This was not what I dreamed, but it is what we can afford and it is a great start. Living in town is great because everything is within walking distance. 3/4 of an acre is small, but I have not yet maxed it out. Each year I add more perennial crops and grow a huge garden. In the last five years I have gone from producing no food of our own to about 50%.(this includes meat that I raise at my work- all else is home grown) My biggest challenge is patience. I want it all- yesterday! But money has dictated the pace at which I fully realize my dream. I get closer each year. This year I am adding a hive of bees, hazelnut bushes, and five laying hens. I have a small orchard- 14 fruit trees, all semi dwarf for space reasons.Blueberries, asparagus, strawberries, fiddleheads, gooseberries, raspberries,rhubarb etc. I have been working on a sugarbush for five years but that will probably be for my grandkids.I have been running a garden center and farm for the last 10 years in VT and have learned a lot about growing a wide range. I will answer any questions I can if it helps someone.

  118. Stephani says:

    Does anyone think it’s even remotely possible for a single mother with no support system e.g. no family/no close friends, to transition to an off the grid lifestyle? I’m honestly terrified of what will become of my children and myself when society breaks down. All opinions are welcome, just please don’t be hateful :) Thanks a million!

  119. Laurel says:

    I am a single mom and have been doing this on a small scale for several years, although it is definitely not self- sufficient yet. It takes time (and practice) to get it going and keep it afloat, especially if you are taking a piece of raw land and making a homestead there. I work off the farm too, in order to be able to live ON the farm. But, it is better than having to totally rely on the system for everything. If you have some friends / neighbors who can give you a hand that will make it easier. I wish you the best in your journey.

  120. Joe says:

    We are sharecroppers in the United States. There is no private ownership of land. If you don’t believe me, stop paying your taxes and you will discover who owns the land. The U.S. was ahead of the communist curve.

    The chief tennant of classic communism is that there is no such thing as “private property”; all property (capital) is “collectively” owned (i.e., “farm of the people”, “the people’s goat farm” etc.) The communists believe that private property is the root of all evils. Don’t be fooled by their supposed concern for the environment- its a smokescreen. Many have fallen for it and ignorantly repeat the communist talking points. The goal is collectivism, public ownership of all capital, which actually works out in practice as the central beuracracy (government) ownership of everything. Its all about greed and power, even worse than the capitalism they hate so much. At least in a free caitalist society, everyone gets to pursue wealth and power as an ideology; under communism, only the state gets to be “capitalist”.

    So, choose your master people. Will it be monopolizing private corporations, monopolizing state corporations, a landlord, emporer or a king. All is vanity and there is nothing new under the sun 😛

  121. Wes says:

    Was wondering if your still looking for some help. I’m 27 just got divorced have been wanting to go off-grid for a while, I’m a hard worker and a fast learner please email me back at

  122. Wes says:

    Or if there is anybody else out there that would be willing to take me in as a helping hand please email me with info and I will be happy to get together and talk with you.

  123. tony says:

    id also to live off the grid back to the way nature intended i live in england and its a sorry place to be id love to have sum land and live of it and be isolated away from the life i currently live my partner does not share ths dream she is only intrested in make up and drinkin pretty sad reaily im lookin to start classes in growin veg and get advice from a local farmer on lookin after live stock im a good fisher which my come in handy and im gud with my hands it will be a few years before i can live my dream but wish the people r livin it all the best….. just a fort theres so many people on here tht want to live ths life or already are myb you shout join forces so to speak and start the perfect community were food and live stock is provided for every 1 and future or important desitions come to a vote for the best out come for every 1 gypsy travelers have been doin it for centerys

  124. neil says:

    Im 34 yrs old with a family of 7 . Ive been looking for land down here in north central fl for my family homestead. I have been vegetable and fruit gardening for over 10 years. i have hands on in organic,hydro,and everything inbetween. we also breed rabbits but cant have typical livestock because i live in the city. we are in need of owner financing on 4+ acres with some type of housing with power/ it doesnt matter if its a 1 bed trailer . When you have a young family you want the best for them and common sense says the world economy will collapse with the rising price of oil. thus driving aka food delivery , and other such essentials will only be afforded by the wealthy. If you dont know how to grow your own food use square fooot gardening to grow succession plantings. Go to you tube and just start watching others videos on livestock all the info you need to get started on your own 1/4 acre. I highly recommend if you have acerage with livestock to see polyface farms video on you tube ……youll never buy feed again. its like a crop rotation only livestock they forage turn out healthier to eat and you save money. well back to my question … if u would like to work something out with me i have no down payment until after taxes this year ( i just paid off all my debt with my2010 return)so i can afford to save and pay a decent monthly morgage.
    ooops i meant contract for deed/ idont want any bank making money of off me. they stole enough through gov. handouts.
    please email me at if you have available property and can work with me . not to knock it but icant imagine raising my family without power, phone, inet. i learned to much for free from inet. i used to have to go to the library now its right there ……. I just need power though im not a big user of it but it makes alot of difference with a family my size. well does anyone know of any family co ops . someone said earlier we should join together in our cause if you realize that several families together have greater buying power for more land why not start a community of several families on 3-4 acres each. i talked to an elderly lady who was a child during the depression/ it seems to me that everyone should ve talked to her / your eyes will bulge and that oh crap feelling will start in your gut as u quickly realize what we are headed towards. and thats just not my opinion that was the opinion of the lady. They survived of of a nice neighbors goats milk and her fathers fishing ability. just fish and milk daily for years……. imagine that.

  125. Big Al says:

    Just wanted to let some folks know that we have a few openings for couples to join our newly forming community here in West Virginia. We have 28 acres of wooded mountains and are willing to teach and help you get set up off the grid on our land in exchange for work building the community email us @

  126. Chris says:

    Our world is in a heap of trouble as it is, so I bleive it’s time to start living off the land as our ancestors once did.
    people say they need power when there’s power all around, I did research and found that one windmill generator can generate 4,700,000kwh per year, that could power several hundred homes for a while. I’m 17 now and have begun to relize the trouble were in so I’ve began to learn what it takes to do what others believe is impossiable, I am pleased to see so many people trying to do the same but once that economic drop hits, it’s those who worked for what they have that will survive.
    -Thank you

  127. Chris,

    Thanks for stopping by.. At 17-years-old, I appreciate your enthusiasm and interest in renewable energy. However, I might advise you not to trust everything you read, especially if it’s coming from a manufacturer. Sure, you can generate a lot of power with an industrial-sized windmill. The same goes for solar. But not every site has good sun or wind exposure, and even the ones that do only have it during certain months of the year. The same goes for water flow and micro-hydro. We’re going to have to do a lot of things, including a mix of renewable energy, as well as natural gas and environmentally conscious oil drilling and coal extraction for awhile. Above all, we need to reduce our energy demands so we can stretch what we have further – hopefully long enough to discover more viable ways to meet our energy demands.

    Good luck in your quest to learn more and stop by soon. I hope your generation does a better job than mine has at fixing this problem that we’ve known about since my parents were your age. I’m 34 now.


  128. Jenben59 says:

    Hello, Everyone. I am very interested in off grid living and moving back to the country. When I lived in the country LP gas was 97 cents a gallon, it was trucked in for no less than 100 gallons at a time which you paid for “on delivery”, there was only 1 electric “co-op” that had electric service in that area, but there were water lines. If the electric went out, the house was heated with gas, had a fireplace, and the stove was gas. (Currently, in my previious area, LP gas is 2.97 a gallon) What I am running into is what I think is a high price for 5 acres of unimproved land that is located at least 100 miles outside any big city. I have found some that are priced alright, but no utilities. That’s not bad if you truly want to be off grid, but you still need water, some type of waste disposal and basic electric is needed. When I began pricing what is costs to have a well dug, a composting toilet system installed instead of expensive septic system, and a small decent solar system installed, these days the price to have these things installed cost more than the land. If you go totally solar, no tie into electric lines, you better have a very good back up system. If your water well is run on electric and you have no power…you had better have had an “old school” hand pump installed on the water well to get the water up…or better yet…an “ancient school” bucket on a rope. I know people who have had solar installed, it is expensive and it is tied into their current electric lines in case there are days without enough sun or back up to keep their house going. I am not saying you can not live off the grid reasonably, IF you own the land outright, you pay to have basic needs installed (not on credit) and unless you are “well-off” or plan to stay working full time, can afford a house to be built on your land but you better be ready to really cut out the extra stuff and work hard, stuff you may think nothing of these days. I may have lived in the country, but never totally off the grid and as energy prices have sky rocketed, including gasoline, you need to really think about a vehicle before you move to far out. When I lived in the country it was about 30 miles to the closest small town. (The only litte “country stores” about 5 miles away from me that usually closed by 6:30-7:00pm, sometimes whenever they wanted…if it was super slow, so call them first!) You can not load everything you need in a little 4 cylinder car, load up the kids and go to town and think there is going to be enough room to bring home the groceries, kids clothes you had to buy, all the extra household stuff… let alone something you need like a few sheets of drywall,plywood or 2 X 4’s. Before gasoline went so high, some companies (Sears) would still deliver for a reasonable price, but now…I do not know. Also, I lived about 1/2 mile off the main road, down a dirt road…it is not like living in the city, they can get muddy during rainy season and no, the county is not out there as soon as it stops raining to plow the road. They do not plow your driveway. If it has not been driven on a lot, packed down and you have some type of rock or something on it and it rains…your driveway is a muddy mess and sometimes you can’t get up the drive if you are on a slope and do not have 4 wheel drive. You might need a 4 Wheel drive, big truck for many reasons. You want a horse, OK, but they need to be taken care of…got to build a barn, buy saddle and tack, may need a vet, shots, hay. Want to have pigs or chickens, animals need to be fed and taken care of…better make sure they do not get a disease and it spreads, can’t sell/barter the meat or eggs. You’re going to feed your family by hunting for meat, lets say, deer meat. (it really is good) Most of the time you got to have a hunting licence, got to go buy hunting rifle and ammo, again, a big truck to load the animal in IF you’re able to get one, better be up and out early morning, got something to drink/eat if you’re thirsty/hungry as the day goes on, better have good boots…not tennis shoes or sandles…got your self a deer? As soon as you get home better have time to gut and cut! Can’t leave it hanging for a while til you feel like doing it because you are to tired… lot of stuff to know. Totally living off the land without some type of income is not sustainable. Think about this, you’re debt free, living frugily, no kids to take care of and savings. Well, the garden did not make it this year,(no rain and you did not have your well dug deep enough and it went dry!) so there is nothing you have to barter with, unless neighbors do not have chickens and eggs and you have some, or whatever else. LP gas went up in price again, vehicle gasoline went up again, you got punctured with a bad, rusty nail and need to get to town to get your medical shot, but since you are not working, you have no insurance. The local health department no longer gives free shots…you better have money “up front” to pay for the doctor and the shot these days. (Unless, you’ve been his patient for a long, long time.) Alright, you decide to take a part time job, pay is not that great these days, jobs are scarce, but you got one, paying let’s say $10.00 an hour.(A man job and you have some type of skill…basically minimum wage for a woman without any skills, but at least a high school diploma i.e. cashier, maid, clerk something like that) You are driving 30 miles to town and 30 miles back…think about the gas it is costing you, in that big 4 wheel drive, 8 cylinder truck you needed to buy to pull a trailer full of hay, horse trailer or whatever. Plus it does not take long to put 3,000 miles on the truck you had to buy, so unless you know how to change and dispose of oil at home without damaging the land you’re trying to grow vegetables and keep live stock…….There is a lot, and I mean a lot to consider before you move to the middle of nowhere and live off grid. I am not saying it can’t be done, but you better be healthy, willing to work hard, have a good back up plan in place, stash a lot cash, really know your neighbors and help each other. Oh, even if you are working and have insurance, if you, your partner or kids get a serious illness or need some type of major surgery…you better know where the best hospital/doctors are in the nearest BIG city,(when I lived in the country it was 125 miles to the nearest BIG city) not that there are not some good medical people in smaller towns, but from experience…the best of the best are still in the big medical areas in big cities. You have to get well and heal up as soon as possible…there is no one out there taking care of the land and everything on it…like I said, know your neighbors and help each other. I am just tossing out things I have learned from experience, not telling you not to follow your dream, but what was once a peaceful, safe, beautiful, earthy CHEAP way to live has changed. Back in the day, families lived near by, so you always had a support system…young men that could help the old guys with tractors, animals and so forth. Women had the young girls to help with house stuff, canning, make jelly, pick the vegetables, making quilts and so on. And they did share everything. There is a lot of work to do, both “old school” male/female stuff. If you want to be involved in a “commune” style country life, they are not all bad, it’s like the old 60’s stuff, but that does not mean you can trust everyone in those situations. They tend to start out with a good attitude and I think they mean well, but when the going gets tough, you will see who will stick it out over time and who will leave you high and dry without enough people to keep the “commune” going. The people that have the best way to do this and still survive wonderfully…the Amish. They have a total support system in place and really live off grid and help each other. They are totally sustainable by themselves if the whole economy falls and America hits the bottom, they will truly survive.

  129. nathan william says:

    Hi all, I’m a 21 year old guy actively preparing to purchase land, equipment, animals, build an A-frame or cabin and begin a different lifestyle homesteading. I plan to possibly build small cabins or cottages to sell as a source of income. I’m looking for individuals not faint of heart with ample resources to take up this kind of lifestyle in the same area with possible labor sharing/cost splitting. I’d really like to go to a remote part of alaska, which would be best to do with in cooperation with some other folks because of the remote aspect and to split costs of air taxis(only feasible way to get in to some of the best land). All options are open though at the moment-I’ve looked at land in montana,ny,wv etc. The good thing about alaska is no property tax for some remote areas,no issues with zoning, building codes, good stands of timber, cheap land with water access, big game, and vast expanses of uninhabited land,every resident supposedly gets 1k or so a year from the oil profits, but you also have to deal with the short growing season, harsh weather,bears,and general dangers of being in such a remote area. It is possible to make a go of it in remote alaska-I’ve seen some youtube vids of people doing it. If I do it alone I’m afraid I’ll eventually not be able to afford the air taxi to bring in supplies or run into a life threatening situation like a bear breaking into the cabin and eating my food while I’m out hunting or something like this that could be avoided if there was someone to watch the camp.
    Lets talk..
    My email is -please include the word homesteading in the subject line.

  130. james says:

    hello everyone, ive been looking for a off-grid community to live on and help out. Tired off living the daily grind of working for THE MAN. Willing to go anywhere and do anything tohelp the community out to make it. Please e-mail me at thanks

  131. James says:

    I am totally sold on the idea! I grew up on a farm raising all sorts of animals and crops. I love the outdoors and so does my wife we are both 43 years old love to do gardening and fish every chance get. I was in construction for over 15 years building houses til the economy did its thing. I am looking for someone already somewhat established to do whatever needs to be done to make it. All I want is living space for my wife and me to finish out our years together and be happy being self sufficient. We both have a lot to contribute. If anyone is interested contact me at good luck to all!

  132. Marshall Ray says:

    Jenben59, Thx for all the info but you seem more pessimistic than optimistic. I hope you find what you are looking for. You did give me reason to pause & think about some things i.e. who would care for my property if something serious were to happen; getting to know my neighbors; what to do if my equipment/animals fails me; etc. Thx again & good luck to you.

  133. Shepherd says:

    Quickly looked through all these wonderful messages. We are in Texas and looked for like minded people. We want to move somewhere where there are others with a similar goal. We are retired, can purchase somewhere to live. If you are somewhere in Texas and can grow food there and preferably have well water (really want all off the grid), please contact us. There are so many small towns, but want to land in the right place. Thanks!

  134. Back2Basics says:

    It’s great to find so many people who want to live off of the land. I grew up in the Pacific Northwest and my Green Beret father used to teach us survival techniques throughout growing up. I had an ok life before I divorced my wife and I got screwed. They have me paying so much child support that I can’t afford to pay my bills. I am planning to live off the land in Northern Canada and finally be free.

  135. Chris says:

    Great stuff here! Thank you all for sharing your thoughts and ideas. We are on the verge of making a huge decision to relocate to a beautiful 5 acre minifarm in central Oregon. The couple that owns it would like is to join forces to share living expenses and share the work of living off the land. It’s a big decision to leave family and friends and move 4 hours away. But, it is a perfect situation for how we want to live out the rest of our lives. Tough decision on one hand, easy on another. It feels so good to plan and talk about the mini farm but feels so strange to think that we would be leaving all our family, friends and our established businesses behind. If you would like to talk more about homesteading or “peak everything”, drop us a line….

  136. OneHotMomma says:

    Hello all like minded thinkers!! I am 29, married with 3 kids.. I have been throwing this idea around for a couple years now and i have started slowly but steadily. We have an old farm house in NW Ohio with almost 5 acres. I have taught myself how to can produce from my big garden, I raise chickens for eggs (and meat soon), we raise a couple hogs for meat as well. My husband has been researching wind and solar power. We have an outdoor woodburner (which saves a TON of money!)I have to agree with most people that you absolutely need to get out there and start learning little by little. My extended family just laugh at me.. call me an old lady, but when it comes down to ‘IT’ I’ll be ahead of the game! Our property here is nice.. we have added a couple fruit trees every year, and my garden is a continual learning experience. I’ve learned to make my own laundry soap and i hope to soon learn how to make cheese, yogurt, and everything about milk. (i am working on talking the hubby into getting a milking cow!) To me this seems like the life! I enjoy being outdoors and i don’t mind the hard labor. We have almost no debt. (besides the pesky house payment) (which we are workin on getting paid off!) I’m just glad to see that there are so many people who share this interest!! :)

  137. Brenda says:

    My husband and I have been researching solar, wind, hydro power, alternative houses, such as cob, straw bale, earthen, etc. for several years now, along with gardening, raising chickens, rabbits, turkeys, geese, horses, etc…We know that living off grid isn’t easy and are going into this with open minds and hearts…We want to live around other like minded people that have “living off the land attitude”, even if you are not there just yet… My husband is disabled and we have been trying for SS for about 3 years, I am sure given his age, 43, that it will be years to come if ever if that materializes..however, I am going back to work at the post office full time and will be putting my efforts and income into finding land that we can be off grid on, and live the “pioneer” type life…hard to do? yes,of course it is, is it worth it? we believe so, I have always had a can do nature, even if someone tells me it can’t be done, I will work twice as hard to prove that it can..In the meantime, I have tried gardening, here in hot north Texas, raising some animals, but most people here let their dogs run free and most of our critters have been killed even with fencing and housing provided…I do composting, have built and earthen outdoor oven, I love working with cob…Even with hard work at gardening, we are put on water restrictions every year to 1 day a week, even though I do my best to conserve even with no restrictions looming at us…we live pretty cheaply, are not too extravagant, and are interested in what other folks are doing to improve their spirits, lifestyles, pocketbooks, peace of mind, or whatever has driven you to seek a different lifestyle all together…I would love to hear from others on this matter, no matter where you live… We are seriously looking at Oregon, California or Arkansas for land ideas, I have spent a lot of time and research into restrictions, zoning, taxes, etc. However, my plan is to sell my small house here in Texas working hard for the next several years saving and planning, and getting off grid completely, solar, wind, hydro, back up generators, well or cache water system, etc, growing my own veggies, flavoring and medicinal herbs, having a few animals for meat, eggs, insect control, etc, and I know I have a long way to go, I am no where near where I want to be by my goals and plans are firmly in mind..I have taken composting courses, started gardening classes, and am getting into animal husbandry, making my own soaps, cheese, beer, sodas if so desire, not required though, but I am trying it all at least once and improving on it if I decide I can or wish to do that process…I am looking at hearing from other like minded folks, if you want, please email me at: If you don’t hear from me, try it again, it may have gone into my spam folder, but I love hearing about other folk’s experiences on the land, your hardships, what you would have done different, or what you are doing now…I hope we join you soon, peace, Brenda

  138. karen hotch says:

    TO wvhomesteader

    if you are still here, please email me..

  139. Bob Wy says:

    10 acres Korona Florida stocking my 3/4 acre pond with Blue tilapla to raise and sell. Please contact me if in area….Bob

  140. Bob Wy says:

    FORGOT my contact info e-mail
    set a date for a tour…….Bob

  141. robert hillman says:

    we are in ontario canada
    we are looking for a christian farming community
    that will let us work and live

    three adults to work and garden and do chores

  142. robert hillman says:

    if anyone knows anyone in ontario that wants help on their farm for room and board PLEASE LET US KNOW

    ontario single parent family

  143. patricia says:

    My boyfriend and I currently live in guatemala; gave up our life and “stuff” in the states to be free of US laws and restrictions for a different set!
    Love it. (I know you are the kind of people who dont believe the government controlled media about the violence down here — totally exaggerated!) there are many opportunities down here for trading labor for accomodations or food, it is called : volunteering. Many places will put you up and or feed you for a minimal amount while you work on their sustainable farm and learn/share techniques.

    Look up AtitlanOrganics (45$ per week for food and accomodations for 5 hrs/day, 4 days per week with field trips) or other central american sites where your money will go farther. Even better, make it a cheap vacation and see if it works for you here.

    Some of the positive aspects are climate for year round gardening, relatively cheap land if you dont use real estate agents, no petty land use zoning regulations, very little (if any)building codes/regulations, mild temps, fresh everything, excellent transportation butt cheap, many ecosystems to choose from, generally friendly people.
    Other aspects to consider: learning local language, high theft rate, imported tools/gasoline cost is high (5$/gal, mediocre quality), mediocre quality of many things –which goes along with doing things yourself, by hand ; and buying potable water or creating your own (catching abundant rainfall and filtering).

    LOTS OF OPPORTUNITY for flexible, respectful people!

    Remember, its your life; make it one you can look back on with pride!
    (BTW, your past can be left at the border………be known for who you are, not what you were.)


  144. June says:

    Hi my name is June. I has been my dream to live off the land and I don’t care if I have a shack to live in. My husband and daughter have been wanting to do this. My daughter doesn’t totally understand. I want to be self reliant. I want to grow food and medicine. Be totally off the grid. I want it more as the days go on. I feel as though it won’t ever happen because of being poor. We lost everything when ecomey crashed. Sorry can’t spell. I am 43 and don’t know if there is still time to make it happen. Very discouraged.

  145. William says:

    Hello All,
    Im a 43 year old single guy currently living in South Carolina with dreams of moving back to Western North Carolina and partly going off grid until the “full” off grid lifestyle can be reached.A job is in place waiting for me but, Im missing a partner.I grew up in those hills with many family members still there.Most who were/are Homesteaders with plenty of tips,compassion and understanding of the simple free life.The current climate of society/world is an ugly thing only to get worse.I plan on making this move by spring and sure would like to find a soulmate to join me on this journey.I have 95% of gear for survival “if needed” but believe there is still some hope for our country. If not? Why not be with someone who has the desire and knowlege to make it? We all need partners in life and will soon come to understand how important it is that we have one. God Bless all

  146. massphotoman says:

    Married couple in our early 40s. We are very discouraged with everything going on right now. We have two grown boys and now want to take what we have saved up and get away from civilazation. We would like to be able to find a piece of property with a small house or trailer on it. We want to have our own well/water supply and hopefully some kind of septic system. We want to build up our own types of water collection and storage. We also want to start growing many of our own foods. I am disabled and collect disability so I do have a regular income. I also want to start my own business in photography. At this point we are ready to get a piece of land and put a yurt on it. I already have two generators for power until I can get solar hooked up. We have money for a small place or for a down payment if we can find an owner that will carry us. I am trying to spend as little as possible on the property so that we have a chance to actually improve it and be successful. I know that too many fail because they overspend and then have nothing to live off of for the first couple of years. I know that it takes at least a couple of years to find out if you are going to make it. We are very determined to make this work and need somebody that is willing to help another hardworking family get off the grid. Please email me with any information. Thank you so much. we are now located in Massachusetts but are willing to relocate to the right place for the right price. Thank you again, Jason.

  147. Hi my name is Elizabeth..I growen up on a farm, now I have kids they are growing up on a farm also.We grow everything we just about eat.Teaching your kids how to be depend isnt a bad things now days.My kids know how to do canning,fishing,hunting,gardening and much more.We try to live just off the land thats all.Thanks for your time

  148. Raf says:

    I cannot believe what some people are saying. The idea of ‘disappearing’ from society seems too far-fetched. You’ll need money/income no matter what, cause the land can only provide so much, and we all, as human beings, will always want more – and so we have ‘progress’. I grew up in a farm in the tropics. We had a goat, all kinds of fowl, rabbits and a vegetable garden. However, we were not totally living of the land (we had electricity, tv, and all the conveniences of ‘modern’ living, and dad worked as a contractor. Ten years ago I tried to live of the land in West Virginia (5 acres). After 10 months of trying, I hooked up the electric lines and phone lines. I gave up. Life was happening, but not mine. Now I am self employed, work from home, travel and once in a while I go to the cabin in WV which I still own. I can still work from there thanks to wireless internet. Soooo, those of you who want out all the way- WAKE UP! It can be done half way, and that does not make you a hipocrit, just a person with common sense!

  149. Bryan says:

    Very interested in anyone that has a unique look at homesteading or living off the grid for TELEVISION purposes. If this is something that interests you please contact me at

  150. Suzanne says:

    Hi, just found this site. Been wanting to get out of the rat race ever since I got in it. Never saw a real value in this system we have been stuck in for quite some time. Now 26, my beau & I don’t know where to begin with all this. Helping a friend with his garden and growing some sage on my tiny porch, as I don’t have a lot of space to work with in my current living situation. Would love to know more about this kinda thing, but have my reservations about living in a commune & sharing “everything” (including money, even though our currency is virtually nonexistent) and giving away everything I own for the benefit of the commune. I guess I’m more interested in homesteading and living in a sustainable, off-grid, close-knit community where everything is within walking distance. Want to find experienced people who can help us, as our friend has physically limiting health issues. Anyone out there in Virginia?

  151. michelle and josh says:

    i also feel the same. i wish to find a place and have no money. im disabled and cant afford a car or milk. i too need to live as one one of gods children. i just dont know if i could do it. how do i get water. and food and shelter?

  152. Elizabeth says:

    I have truly enjoyed reading this article and the comments. I’ve been homesteading for over 7 years in the Ozarks. I began on a very small acreage, worked out some of the trials and errors, then moved to a larger parcel of land. I raise goats and chickens primarily, but have a burro, guineas, and ordering some turkeys. Of course, there are dogs and cats. I raise a calf on goat’s milk every year, for beef. My gardening and preserving is completely organic. No unnatural pesticides and NO GMO! The growing season is great, although July is dry. The winters aren’t bad. I still have electricity, but have been adding solar and wind power incrementally.

  153. Dan Hufstedler says:

    Just found this site, am a homesteader it’s a process but worth it if you stick it out.

  154. wishing says:

    Wish I could join you on living off the grid. I have a 2 year old daugther and currently divorce if I could some how get my ex to agree to it. Myself and my little one would be living in mountains on our own.

  155. Shelly Adams says:

    Join us Oct 6-7 for our Annual Homesteading Weekend on Short Creek in Alabama, featuring nationally renown herbalist, author, survival expert Darryl Patton, plant walks, build a smokehouse, bathouse, make medicinal salves, how to eat in the wild, canning, preserving food, build mulching toilets, build a root cellar, how to build a solar generator for less than $500, flintknapping, and so much more. Visit us at for more information or call 256-660-1888 or 256-647-1776.

  156. Canuc says:

    Hi…real glad to read so many are interested in homesteading,off grid.ect., ect.I am from B.C Canada and was wondering if some folks a little closer are into the same thing?I am a senior and do not wish to eat gmo or anything else our gov. has concockted and for years would like to grow,pick,raise,gather what is nessasary to survive.would like to hear from others in general local……thanks

  157. Ken IMAGINE says:

    WOW Great infor.but i think Donald Murray wrote it best.Try where you live right now,Take classes learn,teach yourself.Do not listen to the nayers there are so many,that they think the govrement has there back, Look what is going on now.Gas $3.80 a gal.Red bell pepper $1.60 for one.Dose not matter who we vote for they do wha they want.This contry at one time ment something not any more.SO POWER TO ALL {IMAGINE}

  158. Dan White says:

    It is fun to read the many remarks that folks have ref living “off grid” as it were. I grew up in a “living off the land lifestyle” and have very fond memories of my childhood. As I am from the Appalachian area, I would remind folks that a lot of people still live this way, and are very content. They are generally refered to as “backward hillbillies” that have been the brunt of a lot of jokes over the years. Funny in that who is laughing now?
    I remember President Johnsons “War on Poverty”and the many well meaning city folks that came to our door to “save us”from this type of living. I also remember many of them driving away with the back of their car nearly dragging the ground as their trunks were loaded with the abundence of fresh preserved fruits, vegetables, and meats that was given to them as heart felt gifts.
    Yes…there were many amoung us that were dirt poor, and did need assistance. But rather than someone teaching them how to fish, they were given fish, and their following generations remain on welfare to this day,..totally dependent on goverment handouts.
    I will be retiring soon… and will return to a very self satisfing “living off the land” life style. I am a “hillbilly”,so thank God I aready know about such things.

  159. Justin says:

    Hi, I am 25 years old and live in south eastern washington state.
    I would like to join hard working christian brothers and sisters coming together in like mindedness abounding in love. I am looking to live off the land somewhere here in the northwest. I am passionate about God’s word, living with and serving others.
    Contact me, Justin at if you’re interested.

  160. Cynthia Stenstrom says:

    Hi Brian,
    I speak Spanish, was living in Costa Rica and had my life set up but, an unexpected separation/divorce, then moved back to NC to be near my son, who was having some problems. He’s grown and no time for mom now so. I would love to hear more about your place and to get involved somehow. Wells Fargo stole my home in 2011 (at Christmas) and I’ve been staying with a friend (basically homeless) ever since. Sold everything I had to keep going. I’m about to get some “benefits” at least, finally, as there are no jobs. But I’m still healthy, fit and eager to find a way to start over in a sustainable, simple way, south of the border! Please send me more info at Thank you so much… looking for hope in a sea of unconciousness.

  161. Cynthia Stenstrom says:

    To Dan White,
    From one “hillbillie” to another, how ya’ll doin? I’d love to hear more about what yer up to. I used to milk cows, gather eggs and such, but that was a long time ago. And now, I gotta start over, from scratch, so to say, with absolutely nothing! Makes it a bit tricky. I’ll have a little money coming in soon and gotta make it last forever so, any ideas, suggestions are really appreciated from all. I love this site and hope to hear from you… I’m looking for a “community” of good people to work with to make a little shangri la somewhere to sustain us through what’s coming down the pike. Hope to hear from ya!

  162. louisa says:

    hello everyone,
    my husband and I have been interested in moving off the grid for some time now. Living in Texas for the past 5 years, we busted our asses to get what little we had only to lose it to cut backs and lay-offs. Now we back in Alaska looking for land so we can build a dream from nothing. we know it will be hard work, but that’s pretty much all we know, so why not enjoy it, right? Anyway, we would like to find some individuals of like mind to help build a community and get back to the basics. We are both currently working very hard to save up money, and doing research in the process. If anyone is interested please let me know and just so everyone know living off the land is hard, but living off the land in Alaska can be harder. Summers are long days, up to 24hours of day light at summer peak, and winters are long nights, again up to 24hours of darkness at winters peak… but on the bright side each individual in a household gets paid dividends just for living in the state, so every year we will all get a check from the state :)Thank you and good luck to everyone in there endeavor’s.

  163. joshua jenkins says:

    Are there any homesteads in the Kansas city mo a .

  164. I’m the Researcher for a new U.S network TV Series, Homes Unplugged. In the show we help people who are looking to change their city lifestyles for a more wholesome off the grid existence.

    We’ve just been commissioned for an eight-part series after filming the pilot in 2014. The family who filmed with us saw three wonderful off the grid properties in Idaho and experienced milking goats, tending to gardens and running the household to get a taste of the homesteading/unplugged existence. They also learned several handy skills from our resident mountain man and homesteader.

    There are also no obligations for people to buy and they will have all their expenses, travel and accommodation covered by the production. This is a great chance for curious city dwellers to see what’s out there and what life unplugged is all about.

    And of course if you have any questions or would like more information then please get in touch, it would be a pleasure to speak with you. Last of all I just want to promise you that we’re a nice bunch and making a kind series helping families, couples and friends make their unplugged green dream a reality. A rare straight up documentary series looking to aid and entertain, not to exploit or poke fun at. (I know some others have in this subject area).

    Find/contact us at:



  165. My apologies, I’ve just noticed a typo in the ’email’ part of my last message.

    Please contact us at:

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